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Hi. I need to get to Cincinnati and it's really cold outside.

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It's eight degrees Fahrenheit, which is about -13 Celsius right now.

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And I have one of those electric cars.

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This is a Hyundai Ioniq 5, it's a 2022.

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I've had it for four years at this point, and I'm going to document

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what the process looks like for driving in very cold weather,

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because there's still a lot of people out there

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who thinks this is either impossible or very hard.

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And I'm going to do this entirely manually.

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I'm not going to have my car

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tell me how to get to where I'm going.

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I'm not going to have my car pick chargers for me.

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I'm just going to do this

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all on my own, and I'm going to show you

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what my process for doing that is like.

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I've decided to make this video in two parts.

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First, I'm just going to show you the charging stations that I stopped at

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on the way there and on the way back

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as well as how long I spent charging

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to give you a sense of how this trip actually went.

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But then I'm going to start over and walk

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you through the process of choosing chargers

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and how to verify through the information

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the car shows you that you're going to be able to make it to that charger.

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I am not having the car make these decisions for me.

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I'm doing this entirely manually because quite frankly,

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I can do a better job than it can.

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But it is something to think about that

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a lot of people aren't necessarily used to yet.

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And so I'll show you that process.

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But again, first I'm just going to show you

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the actual end result of the trip.

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So let's get started.

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I started this trip with my car fully charged to 100%,

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which isn't something I typically do,
but because the weather is so cold,

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I wanted to squeeze all the range I could out of it

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to hopefully make it to Lafayette, Indiana as my first charging stop.

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And I made it just fine.

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Believe it or not, the charger activated on the first try,

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which for Electrify America is actually pretty amazing.

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So it has not started charging yet,

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but it should any moment now.

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It just takes a while for these chargers

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to start talking to the car because they're old.

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There we go.

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So now the question is

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how fast are we going to charge?

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The car is estimating it will take 25 minutes to get to 80%,

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which is slower than it should.

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It should be able to do that in 18.

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But 25 is still not bad.

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Okay, for those who may not have any familiarity

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with charging an electric car on a road trip,

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let me explain the 80% thing.

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You'll see that my car is quoting a remaining time of 25 minutes to 80%,

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but almost twice as long to get to 100%.

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Every electric car is like this.

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That's because the higher the state of charge a lithium ion battery is,

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the more slowly it can accept additional charge.

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And so the advice is always unplug at 80%

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and just accept that you aren't

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getting quite as much range as your car is capable of,

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simply because it's much faster to do it that way.

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My car is actually exceptionally quick

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at charging from 80 to 100%.

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Most other EVs can take 30, 40,

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sometimes up to an hour just to get that last 20%.

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My car only takes another 20 minutes or so if conditions are right.

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But still, why sit there for 20 minutes to gain

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just a little bit more battery charge?

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Just unplug and go to the next charger.

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So that's what I'm doing here.

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I just wanted to explain one thing with charging

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EVs on road trips is you're never really going to fill them up.

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You can if you want to, but you'll waste a lot of time.

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So you really just want to unplug at 80% and get going.

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Okay.

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I just finished eating my sandwich

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and I have found out where the next charging stop is going to be.

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And we're already at 74%.

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And actually, I can safely unplug right now

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because the next charger is only 86 miles away.

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As you may have seen from the dash cam clock,

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I pulled into this charging station at 
11:17 its time and I'm pulling out at 11:46,

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so total time spent here was about 29 minutes.

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I think the car was charging for 25 minutes of that.

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Pretty much exactly what it said.

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But between charger activation and programing

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in the next destination in my car

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spent an extra five minutes at the charging site, but

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our next and last charging stop is in Shelbyville, Indiana.

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And as I already said, it's not even 90 miles away.

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Shelbyville is just outside of Indianapolis, and, well, I'm

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actually only recording this
because I don't want to cut up the time lapse.

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I want you to see the whooole thing.

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Is that important?

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Not really, but, Yeah.

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So, we're almost there.

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This went by a lot slower in person, let me tell you.

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Okay. We're almost there.

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We're almost to Shelbyville.

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We're almost there.

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Aaaaaaaaannnnnnd

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okay we're there.

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I was really hoping my dash cam would record

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audio much better than it turned out to.

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I even tried that AI voice enhance thing, and it just, uh, it's real bad.

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So I have to rerecord a lot of everything.

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It's great.

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But anyway, this is a Pilot/Flying J station that I'm about to plug into here,

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and then I'll just give you a quick update as far as the charging speed

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I get once we're plugging in and how long I'm going to be here.

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Okay.
I just got back from using the bathroom.

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We are not getting the best charging speeds,

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but we're getting pretty good.

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16 minutes to 80% means, realistically,

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this is going to be about a 20 minute charge stop total.

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So I can definitely get to my destination

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once we are at 80%, meaning

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I spent, I think I looked it up.

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The total drive time was just shy of five hours,

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and we spent 45 minutes charging.

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I don't think that's a very big deal myself.

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You can disagree, but extending a five hour drive

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by 45 minutes is really not that big of a deal, guys.

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The first charging stop, I was eating my sandwich

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and by the time I was done, I was ready to move on.

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This charging stop, I'm not eating anything so I will be waiting on the car,

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but I'm only waiting about 15, 20 minutes.

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No big deal.

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As before, I'll point out the dash cam showed

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the time was 1:05 when I pulled in to charge, and it's showing 1:26 as I'm leaving.

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So I spent pretty much 21 minutes at this charging stop,

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and now I am on my way to my destination.

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Well, I made it 38% state of charge still.

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That is a very pessimistic number, 59 miles of range.

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But it has been a very pessimistic day.

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But we did manage to click up to 2.4 miles per kilowatt hour.

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So we're getting a little bit better efficiency
in this last 90 mile leg.

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But I am here and,

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I saw a couple of chargers on the way here.

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So I am totally set no matter what happens.

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So I'm going to check in with you tomorrow morning

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when I head back, but for now.

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Mission accomplished.

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Now, when it comes to where I'm going to charge at my destination,

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well, there are many different options available,

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but the one I chose was this:

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Hello and good morning.

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I did end up staying at a hotel, and I looked for a hotel

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that had EV chargers as a perk, and this one does.

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Did you know hotels have electricity?

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It's pretty wild.

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And the smarter hotel managers 
out there are getting electricity from their hotel

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out to at least a few parking spots.

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That way, people like me who have electric cars

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are more willing to stay at this hotel.

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They probably lost about $10 on me from the electricity that I used,

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but they gained 150 bucks from me for the room rate.

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So, you know, they got 140 bucks out of me

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that they would not have if they didn't have those chargers.

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So... just pointing that out, that smart business people

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that like money and people to give them money

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should be offering perks

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like electric vehicle charging.

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But anyway, because I stayed here overnight,

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my car is now at 100%.

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Well, I went out to put something back in the car

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and it was at 98%.

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But at this point, it is now at 100% for sure.

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I didn't even need it to charge that high,

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because I just need to get back to.

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What was that,

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Shelbyville, Indiana?

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But, you know, I might as well,

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because then that shortens the charging time in Shelbyville.

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I might only be charging there for ten minutes

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this morning or this evening.

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I'm not leaving until around four, but we'll find out.

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Yeah, that was a little optimistic.

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I'm not going to bother showing all the time

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lapse footage on the reverse trip,

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because it literally is just the reverse trip.

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Although there's a small twist which I will get to in a moment.

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But I just want to point out that I spent 20 minutes charging here.

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It still wasn't a very long time at all.

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And then I moved on to a different charging station

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than the one that I stopped at on the way back, because, well,

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you'll see soon that the weather is getting worse.

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It's getting much colder, and the winds are picking up.

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And the fact that it took

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almost all the battery pack for me to get from home to Lafayette meant

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it would not work to get from Lafayette back home,

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so I ended up charging at a charger

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farther away from here in Shelbyville.

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That way I wouldn't have to stop twice.

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Except ultimately I did make two charging stops,

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but not because I needed to.

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I did it just in case.

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I'm going to talk more about this

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in the second half of the video, but Plug Share,

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which is the app I'm using to find these chargers,

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had indicated that there was an issue with the charger

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in Remington, Indiana, which is where I wanted to stop.

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And although the app showed me that they were all online right now,

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given the weather, I was a little bit paranoid 
and I decided to stop in Lafayette

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to give myself enough charge to where if I got to Remington

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and it turned out those charges weren't working,

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I wouldn't be stuck there because the gap between Remington

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and Chicagoland is quite large.

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So if I were stuck in Remington,

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if those chargers weren't working, I would have been stuck.

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So I decided to stop in Lafayette to give myself enough charge

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to get to Remington and back, just in case there was an issue.

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Turned out there wasn't an issue,

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so I didn't need to stop in Lafayette after all.

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But I did just in case.

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Okay. Good news:

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We made it here to, Remington.

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This is actually a canopy charging site.

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The car is plugged in, and it's just still negotiating the charger.

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Bad news:

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I saw the worst efficiency I've ever seen on this leg in this car.

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It was down to 1.8 miles per kilowatt hour.

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This is the stretch with all the wind turbines, and it is windy.

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And of course, they are facing the wrong direction now.

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I'm driving into the wind again.

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So we are charging

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and it thinks it's only going to be 20 minutes to 80%.

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So the battery pack must be pretty warm.

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Let's see where we get.

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We're over 100 already.

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That's pretty good

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for only 20 minutes to 80%.

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That's very close to this thing's max charging speed.

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So I really can't complain about the charging speed.

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It's just the range has dropped a lot because of how cold it is.

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But now I think I'm only

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about 100 miles from my home.

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And so long as I'm only 100 miles from home,

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80% is...

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quite safe.

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I cannot imagine a situation

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where an 80% charge can't get this car to go 100 miles.

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That would effectively be a 50% range drop

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'cause 100%...

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what would that be 120 miles, basically?

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So yeah.

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I cannot imagine if I get to 80%

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I'm not going to be able to get home just fine.

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So I'm just going to sit here until we're at 80%,

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and then I'm going to get going.

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I will see you, probably

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I'm just going to check in when I'm home.

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Unless there are issues.

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Were there issues?

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Nope!

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Made it home just fine.

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And I arrived with 21% state of charge.

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I ended up charging up to 85% in Remington

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just to give me that extra buffer, because, you know,

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the weather was really bad,

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but that wasn't even necessary.

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I got home with 21%, and because I have a charging station,

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I'm just going to plug into that, walk inside and go to bed.

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But now let's rewind to the start

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so I can explain what I'm going through

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as I make this happen.

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And I'm going to start by addressing battery preconditioning,

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because this is the weak spot of EVs,

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and it is particularly a weak spot of my car.

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So first, what is battery preconditioning?

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Well, if you were picking up on me,

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talking about the charging speeds after I plugged in,

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it is not safe to charge a lithium ion battery pack quickly

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when the battery cells are cold.

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And in weather like this, that means you get an extremely slow charge.

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Now, engineers are smart, and what they did was

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they added a battery pack heater.

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So the car has the ability to warm up the battery pack

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as you are approaching a DC fast charger

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to make sure that those battery cells are nice and warm,

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and it can charge as fast as possible.

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Any decent electric car does that these days,

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and that is why the winter road trip is no longer

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that painful of a process.

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However.

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although Hyundai equipped these cars

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with the hardware, they need to warm the battery pack.

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The software which controls that feature

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is, pardon my French, batshit.

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Hyundai needs to fix this because right now

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this car is an absolute

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pain in the butt to use in this specific case,

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because I have to trick it into thinking I'm

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going to a charging station.

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Let's back up.

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So some electric car manufacturers out there

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decided that the best approach is to hand hold their drivers,

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and you are supposed to just put in a destination.

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And because the automaker owns all of the charging network,

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it will just pick every single charging stop for you

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and you just follow its instructions.

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Now, because so much of the automotive industry

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has decided that they need to copy that approach,
that's what Hyundai did.

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But you see,

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there's all these new chargers that are showing up every day,

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and I am no longer paying to connect my car to the internet.

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In fact, I've never paid for it

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because I think that's kind of a silly thing.

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I have a smartphone with me, and I can plug it into my car,

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and it can take over my car's infotainment screen,
and it's really great.

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We had this technology called Apple CarPlay and Android Auto.

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It's great, except GM's trying to kill it because they don't like it.

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They want anyway.

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my point is, I don't want to use the car's navigation system.

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I want to pick chargers myself.

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Because any time somebody builds this feature into a car,

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it gets really clunky to do things like say,

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oh, I want to prioritize this charging network,

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or oh, I don't want to use that specific charger.

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So rather than have to go through all that rigmarole,

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I would rather just decide where to charge.

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And so that is what I do.

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But because the car will not battery pre-condition

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unless it knows I am navigating to a charger,

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I do have to use its navigation system

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and oftentimes I have to enter charging stations which don't exist.

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It is incredibly dumb.

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Here's an example of what I mean.

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I have a friend who lives in Madison, Wisconsin, and on the way there,

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there is an ion station in Janesville, Wisconsin,

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and that's the one that I want to stop at.

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But my car doesn't know that charging station is there.

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So when I make trips up there in the winter, I have to tell it.

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I'm stopping at a blink station near there,

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which I'm pretty sure no longer exists,

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but that's the only charging station my car knows about.

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And this is just so dumb.

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I just want a button that I can press

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that says start battery preconditioning

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because I do not need my car to navigate

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on the way to a place I know where to go.

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I just want to be able to tell it, start preconditioning the battery.

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And in case it's not clear, this is irrelevant in warmer weather.

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The only reason you have to do

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this is because it's cold and warm weather.

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You don't bother with this at all, just drive to a charger.

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But my car really needs the battery pack to be at least like, 70°F.

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So even in the middle of spring,

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charging isn't exactly as fast

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as it could be unless you battery precondition.

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And I am just so mad at Hyundai

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for selling me a car which has this critical feature

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that I have to trick the car into turning on.

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It's incredibly dumb.

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They deserve a lot of shame for this.

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And until they patch the software, which, by the way,
we know they can do

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because when I got the car, the infotainment system

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could not turn on battery preconditioning at all.

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And then it got a software update and now it can.

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So it is totally possible for them to add a button,

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but they just haven't bothered.

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And I'm going to keep getting on their case about this

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until they fix the problem,

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because we really need to stop tolerating any sort of company,

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but especially car companies selling products that are not finished.

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Thanks, Tesla,

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you ruined the industry for letting them think that's normal.

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But anyway, if you're a person like me

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who wants to make his own decisions and use his own brain,

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then there is some strategizing when it comes to picking chargers.

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And if you don't know where chargers are,

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you should check out the Plug Share app.

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Or I believe they have a website.

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This is a great resource to understand what chargers are in your area,

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and you can filter them by connector type as well as their power output.

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And in the case of my car, I now have the Nax adapter

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so I can look for any CC, S1

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or next charging station.

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However, I do not want to use Tesla Superchargers,

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and not just because I have a preference to avoid them, but in my car

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they are very, very slow because again, I don't.

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A lot of people can't stand that.

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I sound like I'm Tesla bashing all the time.

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But seriously, it is 2026 and Tesla now has last.

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I checked for 800 volt capable

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charging stations in the entire world.

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And because my car is an 800 volt native car,

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it charges very slowly on 400 volt infrastructure,

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which is almost everything Tesla has.

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They are so behind on charging infrastructure,

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but the broader public just doesn't really seem to know that.

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But anyway.

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If you're like me and you want to make your own decisions

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and pick your own chargers,

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you do need to know how far your car can actually go on a charge,

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and that varies a lot depending on the weather.

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That's kind of the whole point of this exercise.

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But one thing that I would really encourage

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you to do is to not dwell so much on this,

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because what you can do is just get going

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and then see what the conditions are actually like.

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And that's exactly what I'm doing here.

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I picked that charger in Lafayette

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because that's an easy distance for my car

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to do in the summer, but it's going to be a little bit dicey today.

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And I also already was aware of the charging station in Remington.

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So that was going to be a bailout.

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But that's not even important yet.

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What is important is I had my car charged at 100%,

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and I'm going to get going today.

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And after we've been driving for 50 miles

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once, once I'm out of, city traffic

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and I'm on the open road.

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It's very easy to assess what sort of range

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your car is realistically going to get.

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There's several different ways to do this,

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and I'm going to start with the easiest one,

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which isn't the most accurate.

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However, you're using a navigation system,

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whether that's an app or the car's built in navigation system.

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You're going to put in a destination

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and you'll have a figure which tells you miles to go.

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And the car also has a range estimator, which tells you

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how many miles it thinks you can go on this charge.

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Now, the very important thing to remember is that is an estimate.

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That is why I say this is the least accurate.

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But this is actually really useful

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because if you compare the difference between those two numbers,

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you can just keep track of that distance to see

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if you're getting worse energy efficiency

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or better energy efficiency than the car expects.

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So, for example, if it tells me

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I have 150 miles to go until I get to the charger

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and I have 180 miles of range,

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then the difference between those two numbers is 30 miles.

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So as I drive, I'm just going to keep watching those two numbers

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and doing a bit of mental subtraction to see what the difference is.

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If the difference between those two numbers is getting smaller,

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that means I'm using range up faster than the car expected,

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and I might want to slow down, which will increase your range

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or consider picking a closer charger.

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However, if the numbers are getting farther apart,

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that means conditions are better than the car expected
and you can relax.

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I honestly use this method quite a lot,

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but particularly with winter driving,

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it can catch you off guard because of battery preconditioning.

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When the car decides to turn on the battery heater,

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which is typically when you're about 45 minutes

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to an hour away from the charging station.

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That battery heater consumes 4.5kW,

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which isn't huge in the context of the car,

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but it's still quite significant.

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And that means your energy efficiency is going to start dropping

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quite quickly once it turns on that battery heater.

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If the car is doing its own navigation for you,

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it should account for this.

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But you know, I don't really trust any car software these days,

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so I am normally watching things pretty closely.

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But just to give you some context,

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if a 4.5kW heater is running for an entire hour,

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that only represents about 7% of the car's battery pack capacity.

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So it's not a gigantic thing,

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but it is something that can catch you off guard,

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because those efficiency numbers are going to change

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as soon as the battery heater kicks on.

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Now, the more accurate way to gauge

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your driving efficiency is to actually look at the energy efficiency.

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Every car is going to have a different way to show you this,

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but the important metric is miles or kilometers,

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depending on where you are per kilowatt hour.

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Right here on this screen,

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the car is telling me how many miles per kilowatt hour

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the car has averaged in the last 89.5 miles,

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and it's only averaging 2.3, which is really bad.

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This was the moment that the car turned on the battery pack heater.

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I snapped a photo of it.

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Now the efficiency was so bad.

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Not really because it's 18°F outside.

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That's not that big of a factor.

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It was just I was driving into a headwind

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and it was quite nasty.

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This is why I say just get going and see what the conditions are.

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After a while,
I going to be able to get a pretty accurate representation

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of I'm getting 2.3 miles per kilowatt hour.

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And if you want to equate that to actual range, well,

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the car has a 75 kilowatt hour battery pack roughly.

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So you can multiply a 75 by 2.3.

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And then that's your answer.

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It's going to be 180 ish miles.

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But remember that is assuming the efficiency stays the same.

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And since I just turned on the battery pack, well,

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since the car just turned on the battery pack heater,

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the efficiency is going to drop.

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And that is why when we actually got to the charging station,

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the actual average energy efficiency

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ended up being 2.1 miles per kilowatt hour,

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which again is quite poor for this car.

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But a good point two of that was simply

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because the car was heating up the battery pack.

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I haven't mentioned it yet, but the thing about battery

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preconditioning is it's to save you time, not energy,

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because the car is less energy efficient when it does that.

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But if it didn't do that,

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I would be plugged into the charger for probably like an hour.

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As soon as you plug it into a DC

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fast charger, it's going to start heating up the battery pack.

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But the fact that it takes almost an hour for that to happen

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means you don't get that much help out of it.

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So you really want to have the preconditioning start

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a solid 45 minutes to an hour

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before you are expecting to hit the charging station.

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Now I'm going to cut to me back then with some thoughts.

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got back from the store.

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We are charging at nearly 200kW,

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which is almost as fast as this car can go, so that's great.

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I was a little worried because when I left to go into the store,

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the time estimate suddenly became like 32 minutes

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and I was like, oh great, is this this charger being bad?

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But I don't know why that happened.

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The charger is able to sustain 200kW just fine.

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The reason why I say that is because that's in question

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with, good old Electrify America,

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especially with this old charging hardware.

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But it appears to still be going just fine

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and will be out of here probably

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when it originally estimated we'll be out of here.

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So I also want to point out I'm

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going to sit here and eat the sandwich I just bought.

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So I'm really hardly waiting at all.

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And if I wanted to,

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I could turn the car on while it's charging and have it

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keep the cabin warm.

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I'm not going to bother doing that

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just because the cabin's pretty warm as it is.

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And there are circumstances where that can slow down.

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Charging in my car.

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I've never really noticed that happen, but,

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you know, I'm perfectly fine to

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just let it sit here off while I'm in the car

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and I'm going to enjoy my sandwich.

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And while I'm sitting here, let me flip this around here.

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While I'm sitting here, I am now going to plan my next charging stop.

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So I know that we were only able

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to go about 140 miles in this weather,

00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:49.900
starting from 100% charge, and then we got down to 15%.

00:25:50.633 --> 00:25:53.233
I'm only charging up to 80% right now,

00:25:53.600 --> 00:25:55.700
so I'm going to look for a charging station,

00:25:55.700 --> 00:25:58.133
which is a something like 100 miles away.

00:25:58.133 --> 00:25:59.933
And I'm going to as I said earlier,

00:25:59.933 --> 00:26:02.100
I'm going to plan a bail out station,

00:26:02.100 --> 00:26:04.566
which is even closer than that, just in case

00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:08.533
the weather really is this bad the whole way.

00:26:08.800 --> 00:26:11.400
I don't expect it to be, but it could be.

00:26:11.700 --> 00:26:13.900
I'm just surprised because I'm going southeast

00:26:13.900 --> 00:26:15.633
and I appear to be going into the wind.

00:26:16.466 --> 00:26:18.066
So what's almost certainly going to happen

00:26:18.066 --> 00:26:19.433
is on my way back,

00:26:19.666 --> 00:26:22.066
I'll be going into the wind again because that's just my luck.

00:26:22.066 --> 00:26:24.600
But regardless, the whole point I'm

00:26:24.600 --> 00:26:27.900
trying to make with this video is that I'm being slowed down

00:26:28.400 --> 00:26:31.933
a little bit on this trip with this cold weather

00:26:32.933 --> 00:26:34.266
is really not that significant.

00:26:34.266 --> 00:26:37.866
The biggest issue is just dealing with my cars very bad software,

00:26:37.866 --> 00:26:39.833
which Hyundai should be royally ashamed of,

00:26:39.833 --> 00:26:41.533
and I'm going to keep being a thorn in their side

00:26:41.533 --> 00:26:43.433
about until they give us that button.

00:26:44.100 --> 00:26:44.633
Okay.

00:26:44.633 --> 00:26:46.900
I just finished eating my sandwich

00:26:46.900 --> 00:26:50.066
and I have found out where the next charging stop is going to be.

00:26:50.533 --> 00:26:52.433
And we're already at 74%.

00:26:52.433 --> 00:26:55.266
And actually, I can safely unplug right now

00:26:55.266 --> 00:26:58.366
because the next charger is only 86 miles away.

00:26:58.966 --> 00:27:01.733
I am going to now program that in.

00:27:02.033 --> 00:27:02.600
Let's see.

00:27:02.600 --> 00:27:04.133
It was in Shelbyville, Indiana.

00:27:04.133 --> 00:27:06.366
This is the terrible nonsense I have to do.

00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:09.833
I'm going to go ahead and cancel this route.

00:27:13.666 --> 00:27:14.866
Let's see.

00:27:18.033 --> 00:27:21.200
Let's just pick somewhere in Shelbyville, Indiana.

00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:26.866
Is there maybe a Walmart there or something?

00:27:29.100 --> 00:27:29.500
Let's just.

00:27:29.500 --> 00:27:31.266
Look, I just have to search for a place there.

00:27:32.100 --> 00:27:33.000
Sure.

00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:35.200
I'm going to tell the car, take me there.

00:27:35.600 --> 00:27:38.366
But then as it's routing, I'm going to say, let's add a stop.

00:27:40.733 --> 00:27:42.633
And then we're going to add a stop.

00:27:42.900 --> 00:27:46.566
The nearby charging station by the destination.

00:27:47.133 --> 00:27:47.500
Okay.

00:27:47.500 --> 00:27:50.000
I ended up picking a charging station in the wrong spot.

00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:51.566
So that's why I'm starting over here.

00:27:51.566 --> 00:27:54.266
But I just want to chime in and say I am

00:27:54.266 --> 00:27:57.033
not sure this is the way you have to do this,

00:27:57.200 --> 00:27:59.433
but any time I have selected to

00:27:59.433 --> 00:28:02.433
just take me to a charger like I did this twice

00:28:02.600 --> 00:28:05.766
and it did not start preconditioning, both times.

00:28:05.966 --> 00:28:09.833
So the only way that I have made sure it always starts preconditioning

00:28:10.100 --> 00:28:13.200
is to navigate to somewhere near

00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:15.566
to a charger that I know exists

00:28:15.800 --> 00:28:20.400
and then say add, stop and search for a close by charger,

00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:22.566
which is at least 150kW.

00:28:23.100 --> 00:28:25.300
It's so bad.

00:28:25.300 --> 00:28:28.100
But anyway, that's what I'm going through here,

00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:31.766
and I have to find the charging station that I meant to look for.

00:28:31.766 --> 00:28:33.200
I just picked the wrong town.

00:28:33.466 --> 00:28:35.600
Yeah. It was.

00:28:35.600 --> 00:28:38.500
I picked a pilot station, which wasn't where I wanted to go.

00:28:39.233 --> 00:28:40.466
Well, this is what we're doing.

00:28:41.966 --> 00:28:43.333
This is the closest EV

00:28:43.333 --> 00:28:46.000
charging station to where I want to know that it knows about.

00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:49.866
And it's a high enough speed of charging that it should precondition.

00:28:50.133 --> 00:28:53.266
So I'm going to tell it I'm going to add this charging station,

00:28:53.266 --> 00:28:54.766
which may or may not even exist,

00:28:54.766 --> 00:28:56.833
but we're going to add that charging station to the route.

00:28:57.400 --> 00:28:59.066
We're going to have it take us there.

00:28:59.366 --> 00:29:00.933
And I'm not going to listen to the car.

00:29:00.966 --> 00:29:03.200
I'm going to have Waze or Google Maps

00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:05.600
or whatever you want to use on my phone, actually navigate me

00:29:05.600 --> 00:29:08.666
to the charging station we're going to, which is a flying game.

00:29:08.666 --> 00:29:10.233
But at this point we can unplug.

00:29:10.233 --> 00:29:12.033
We're actually at 82% already,

00:29:12.433 --> 00:29:13.366
and I'm going to move on

00:29:13.366 --> 00:29:16.966
to the next charging stop,
which is either going to be the last or second

00:29:16.966 --> 00:29:18.866
to last, depending on what things look like.

00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:20.566
I'll let you know in a moment.

00:29:20.566 --> 00:29:25.000
And now enjoy the lovely dash cam audio for this segment.

00:29:25.633 --> 00:29:26.633
Oh, this is the exit.

00:29:26.633 --> 00:29:29.133
Does that sign show EV charging on there now?

00:29:30.033 --> 00:29:31.166
It does.

00:29:31.166 --> 00:29:33.233
Good. I've noticed they're putting that on there.

00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:36.200
That's good to know.

00:29:36.333 --> 00:29:37.933
I would love to have, like,

00:29:38.233 --> 00:29:41.600
the sign that shows you the gas and diesel price to tell you

00:29:41.600 --> 00:29:43.566
the price in miles per kilowatt hour, but

00:29:44.266 --> 00:29:46.200
I mean, dollars per kilowatt hour cents.

00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:47.733
Really like one mile.

00:29:48.466 --> 00:29:49.400
We're not there yet.

00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:51.700
We'll get there soon and Okay,

00:29:51.700 --> 00:29:53.000
so what I was saying earlier,

00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:56.600
the car is going to keep being mad at me is that this can absolutely

00:29:56.600 --> 00:29:59.366
be my last charging stop before my destination.

00:30:00.033 --> 00:30:04.733
The question just becomes, where do I want to charge when I'm there?

00:30:05.100 --> 00:30:06.466
And can I?

00:30:06.466 --> 00:30:08.666
Because I may be able to charge overnight.

00:30:08.666 --> 00:30:11.100
I am spending the night in Cincinnati,

00:30:11.466 --> 00:30:13.933
but I am not entirely sure yet

00:30:13.933 --> 00:30:15.133
where I am staying.

00:30:16.833 --> 00:30:18.466
I haven't even booked a hotel or anything

00:30:18.466 --> 00:30:20.966
because I might be staying with friends, but I'm not sure yet.

00:30:21.700 --> 00:30:23.766
Anyway, what's important

00:30:23.766 --> 00:30:27.466
is that if I wanted to charge somewhere else, I totally can.

00:30:29.033 --> 00:30:31.533
There are fast charging options near my destination.

00:30:32.433 --> 00:30:34.866
So I'm going to look into that while I'm charging here.

00:30:34.900 --> 00:30:37.800
But here we are at the pilot flying J.

00:30:38.166 --> 00:30:40.800
all right, so I just double checked and I am indeed

00:30:40.800 --> 00:30:43.800
only about 90 miles from my destination.

00:30:43.800 --> 00:30:46.533
So despite the terrible efficiency

00:30:46.600 --> 00:30:48.366
we have had on this trip so far,

00:30:48.966 --> 00:30:50.233
thanks to all this wind,

00:30:50.800 --> 00:30:52.966
I don't need to charge again.

00:30:53.533 --> 00:30:56.466
Now. There are several charging options in town

00:30:56.466 --> 00:30:58.100
near where I am going to be.

00:30:59.233 --> 00:31:01.000
But I don't know yet

00:31:01.033 --> 00:31:03.766
whether or not I'm going to exercise those options

00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:08.133
because I may be staying overnight somewhere that I can charge.

00:31:08.600 --> 00:31:10.466
But I don't know yet for sure.

00:31:11.433 --> 00:31:11.766
Really.

00:31:11.766 --> 00:31:14.200
This whole trip is very just flying by the seat of my pants.

00:31:14.666 --> 00:31:15.933
But I don't need to do that.

00:31:15.966 --> 00:31:20.533
Again,
the thing that's kind of confusing, and I'm noticing it's almost.

00:31:20.900 --> 00:31:22.833
It's interesting how as it's getting easier,

00:31:22.833 --> 00:31:24.400
some things are getting more confusing.

00:31:24.900 --> 00:31:28.466
I can absolutely treat this car like a gas powered car at this point.

00:31:28.933 --> 00:31:30.933
If the battery is cold soaked,

00:31:30.933 --> 00:31:32.300
like if it's actually cold

00:31:32.300 --> 00:31:35.300
and I just plug it into a DC charger, it's going to charge

00:31:35.966 --> 00:31:38.033
stupidly slow. But

00:31:39.133 --> 00:31:40.333
this means that

00:31:40.566 --> 00:31:45.000
I can just get to my destination with 30% state of charge.

00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:46.900
Pretend it's like a third of a tank of gas,

00:31:47.333 --> 00:31:49.666
and I got plenty of range to fart around town,

00:31:49.666 --> 00:31:51.900
and then I just need to charge somewhere before I head back.

00:31:51.933 --> 00:31:55.133
Or if there's a charging station, like on my way back

00:31:55.133 --> 00:31:57.366
just 20 miles outside of town, I'll stop there.

00:31:58.100 --> 00:32:01.633
But I also have the option to, for instance,

00:32:01.900 --> 00:32:05.333
stay at a hotel that offers EV charging as an amenity

00:32:05.600 --> 00:32:09.600
and I can plug it into a level two charger
overnight and charge that way.

00:32:10.166 --> 00:32:12.433
And by the way, even if you're parked outside,

00:32:12.933 --> 00:32:15.000
if you are plugged into a level two charger

00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:17.100
that is like five kilowatts or greater.

00:32:17.100 --> 00:32:19.933
So that's like virtually any public charger you're going to find.

00:32:20.866 --> 00:32:21.966
You're not going to notice it.

00:32:21.966 --> 00:32:25.400
It's the battery the car might end up using,

00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:27.900
maybe like a kilowatt of power to keep its battery

00:32:27.900 --> 00:32:30.066
pack warm in extreme, extreme cold,

00:32:30.566 --> 00:32:33.833
but it still has four kilowatts to actually charge the battery.

00:32:35.166 --> 00:32:37.566
You're really not going to notice it being slowed down at all,

00:32:37.866 --> 00:32:40.400
and the battery doesn't need to be anywhere near

00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:42.966
as warm as the car's been trying to get it to charge quickly

00:32:42.966 --> 00:32:45.366
just to charge, the fastest

00:32:45.366 --> 00:32:48.633
AC charging rate this car supports, which is about 11kW.

00:32:49.266 --> 00:32:50.800
In the context of a battery pack.

00:32:50.800 --> 00:32:53.000
This big is a trickle. Charge it.

00:32:53.100 --> 00:32:53.933
It's irrelevant.

00:32:53.933 --> 00:32:56.600
It does not matter that it's perfectly safe

00:32:56.600 --> 00:32:59.033
to charge the battery at that speed

00:32:59.600 --> 00:33:01.000
at practically any temperature.

00:33:01.700 --> 00:33:03.933
But anyway, I'm just giving you some context there.

00:33:04.800 --> 00:33:07.733
The only real inconvenience if I stop somewhere in Cincinnati

00:33:07.900 --> 00:33:09.666
park overnight and don't charge,

00:33:09.666 --> 00:33:12.433
is that if I plug in to a charging station in the morning

00:33:12.433 --> 00:33:14.866
with a cold battery, it's going to be very slow,

00:33:15.700 --> 00:33:16.866
but I can still do it.

00:33:16.866 --> 00:33:18.133
And once the car is plugged

00:33:18.133 --> 00:33:20.966
in, it's going to start heating the battery pack up as soon as it can.

00:33:21.466 --> 00:33:22.900
But I have done this before.

00:33:22.900 --> 00:33:25.000
The car had battery preconditioning software,

00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:29.066
and it does truly become like the theoretical 18 minutes

00:33:29.066 --> 00:33:33.566
becomes 45 minutes to up to an hour

00:33:33.566 --> 00:33:35.333
if the battery is really, really cold.

00:33:35.800 --> 00:33:37.800
But that's the first charge of the day

00:33:37.800 --> 00:33:40.300
from then on out, the battery pack is going to be fairly warm.

00:33:40.300 --> 00:33:41.500
You don't have to deal with that.

00:33:42.133 --> 00:33:46.233
I hope that makes sense, but I'm already at 71% state of charge.

00:33:46.666 --> 00:33:50.400
Which is enough to get where I'm going for sure,

00:33:50.700 --> 00:33:53.133
but I will let it get up to 80% just to give me that

00:33:53.133 --> 00:33:54.333
bit of buffer.

00:33:54.333 --> 00:33:57.100
Since the winds today have just been awful.

00:33:57.400 --> 00:33:58.566
Awful, awful.

00:33:58.566 --> 00:34:02.433
The last leg averaged just 2.1 miles per kilowatt hour, which is

00:34:03.533 --> 00:34:05.766
I thought it would improve because it's getting warmer

00:34:05.766 --> 00:34:08.733
and we had a little bit of snow there, but it's also getting sunnier.

00:34:09.166 --> 00:34:12.100
But it's just I'm driving almost directly into the wind right now,

00:34:12.233 --> 00:34:13.633
which stinks.

00:34:14.833 --> 00:34:16.633
That does mean every other car out

00:34:16.633 --> 00:34:18.233
there is getting significantly worse

00:34:18.233 --> 00:34:20.833
fuel economy, but they don't necessarily notice it

00:34:20.833 --> 00:34:24.700
because it doesn't impact the range as drastically
as it impacts this car.

00:34:25.366 --> 00:34:27.166
But again, I'm just going to say, as I've said

00:34:27.733 --> 00:34:29.266
probably dozens of times now

00:34:30.333 --> 00:34:33.566
for five hours of driving, I had to stop two times

00:34:33.766 --> 00:34:36.166
and spend 45 minutes charging the car.

00:34:37.700 --> 00:34:38.700
I really

00:34:38.700 --> 00:34:44.366
we didn't even increase the time of this trip by more than 20%.

00:34:45.233 --> 00:34:46.300
It's not a big deal.

00:34:46.300 --> 00:34:49.133
And since I spend literally zero time

00:34:49.133 --> 00:34:50.966
going to gas stations in my day to day

00:34:50.966 --> 00:34:53.433
life on net, I'm almost certainly ahead.

00:34:53.933 --> 00:34:56.033
But I don't even think you need to care about that.

00:34:56.033 --> 00:34:59.666
Just consider the context of I'm driving

00:34:59.666 --> 00:35:03.166
five hours today to get to Cincinnati from Chicago,

00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:07.300
and I only needed to, but I crossed the entire state of Indiana.

00:35:07.866 --> 00:35:10.600
I'm still in it now, but I'm almost to Cincinnati,

00:35:10.900 --> 00:35:11.800
and I will have crossed

00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:14.200
the entire state of Indiana in the middle of winter

00:35:14.533 --> 00:35:16.566
when it's well below freezing,

00:35:16.966 --> 00:35:19.233
and I took two charges and 45 minutes of

00:35:19.233 --> 00:35:21.300
time is really not a big deal

00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:23.400
that there's people who think that's a big deal to them.

00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:24.566
That's fine.

00:35:24.566 --> 00:35:26.900
We very much disagree on

00:35:28.300 --> 00:35:29.766
what is a big deal,

00:35:30.233 --> 00:35:32.433
but you're allowed to disagree.

00:35:32.433 --> 00:35:34.966
I just think if you're actually honest,

00:35:35.666 --> 00:35:38.833
a less than 20% increase in time

00:35:38.833 --> 00:35:40.033
spent on a road trip,

00:35:41.266 --> 00:35:42.466
it's not really a big deal.

00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:46.266
Okay, so I already talked about the charging stops on the reverse trip,

00:35:46.266 --> 00:35:49.033
so there's really no point getting too deep into the weeds there.

00:35:49.333 --> 00:35:51.100
It's the exact same process.

00:35:51.100 --> 00:35:53.100
I'm just doing what I was telling you.

00:35:53.100 --> 00:35:55.500
I'm checking the car's energy efficiency.

00:35:55.500 --> 00:35:58.633
I'm comparing its range estimate to my distance to go,

00:35:58.900 --> 00:36:02.800
and just making sure that everything looks hunky dory as far as will

00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:05.433
I make it to the charger I planned to make it to,

00:36:05.966 --> 00:36:07.833
but I do want to give more context

00:36:07.833 --> 00:36:09.866
for why I decided to stop in Lafayette.

00:36:10.433 --> 00:36:13.733
Basically, I knew that charger was working just fine

00:36:13.733 --> 00:36:16.833
and there was a plug share report from a few days ago.

00:36:17.200 --> 00:36:18.500
At the time, I made this video

00:36:18.500 --> 00:36:20.866
that said somebody had some charging issues.

00:36:20.866 --> 00:36:23.433
I think it might have even said all chargers are down.

00:36:23.733 --> 00:36:27.066
I don't remember, but it was enough of a concern that I decided

00:36:27.066 --> 00:36:29.466
I had better not skip Lafayette

00:36:29.466 --> 00:36:32.366
because if I do, I will be stuck in Remington.

00:36:32.633 --> 00:36:34.833
There were probably some level two chargers

00:36:34.833 --> 00:36:37.333
somewhere around there that I could have used, but

00:36:38.166 --> 00:36:40.400
it didn't make any sense to try and risk it.

00:36:40.700 --> 00:36:43.633
And since I knew the Chargers in Lafayette were working,

00:36:44.333 --> 00:36:49.033
my decision was to stop there
and get effectively 60 miles worth of range,

00:36:49.033 --> 00:36:52.233
because the distance from that charger to Remington,

00:36:52.233 --> 00:36:54.633
as you might have seen, was exactly 30 miles.

00:36:54.966 --> 00:36:58.133
And so I wanted to make sure that I could get back to Lafayette

00:36:58.133 --> 00:37:00.533
if for some reason I got to Remington

00:37:00.533 --> 00:37:02.100
and those chargers were not working.

00:37:02.933 --> 00:37:04.900
I discovered on this trip that the

00:37:05.333 --> 00:37:08.200
the stretch of road that I was taking between Chicago

00:37:08.200 --> 00:37:13.433
and Indianapolis still has relatively few chargers on there.

00:37:13.766 --> 00:37:15.633
I was genuinely surprised.

00:37:15.633 --> 00:37:19.066
So the gap between Remington and somewhere close

00:37:19.066 --> 00:37:21.866
to Chicagoland that I could actually charge was just like,

00:37:23.100 --> 00:37:25.000
much longer than I anticipated.

00:37:25.500 --> 00:37:27.733
Basically, I think it was Dalton.

00:37:27.900 --> 00:37:31.766
Like, if I had charged in Lafayette, if it turned out that Remington

00:37:32.500 --> 00:37:35.166
really wasn't working and I had to go back to Lafayette,

00:37:35.566 --> 00:37:38.533
then I would have gone to Dalton, Illinois,

00:37:38.533 --> 00:37:41.666
where the Pope is from, and charged there

00:37:41.966 --> 00:37:45.733
because that would have been a fine gap, but it ended up not happening.

00:37:45.733 --> 00:37:48.700
But I just wanted to throw that piece of context in there to explain.

00:37:48.833 --> 00:37:51.233
The decision to stop in Lafayette

00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.333
was just because the Remington Charger,

00:37:55.166 --> 00:37:58.566
at some point in the recent past had a reported issue.

00:38:00.066 --> 00:38:01.966
If I had risked it, I would have been fined.

00:38:01.966 --> 00:38:05.600
But you know, when it's almost zero degrees Fahrenheit outside,

00:38:06.033 --> 00:38:08.433
it's not good to risk those sorts of things.

00:38:08.433 --> 00:38:09.633
So I didn't.

00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:11.900
and the last thing I want to touch on before I close

00:38:11.900 --> 00:38:17.433
this out, is how much energy
the actual heater was using during this trip.

00:38:17.433 --> 00:38:19.700
I was keeping myself toasty warm in the cabin.

00:38:19.700 --> 00:38:22.166
I was not trying to be frugal or anything like that.

00:38:22.166 --> 00:38:25.366
I think I had it set to 70 or 72 Fahrenheit.

00:38:25.600 --> 00:38:29.200
Typical room temperature just fell a little bit on the warm side

00:38:29.200 --> 00:38:31.166
for room temperature, but it was really nice.

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And yet the cabin heater

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was only drawing about two kilowatts at the most.

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Now I'm bringing this up because the cabin heater

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can look like it sucks a lot of energy out of the battery pack,

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especially when you start your car up.

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Like when I'm commuting back from the office.

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If the car is sitting outside and it's cold,

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the amount of energy it takes to warm up

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a cold car is so much greater

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than the amount of energy it takes to maintain a warm car.

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Once the car is up to temperature,

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it only takes a couple kilowatts to keep it warm.

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Now, in the case of my car,

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it has a heat pump, so it's

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probably a little better than a car without a heat pump.

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But in these temperatures, heat pumps tend to struggle a little bit.

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I wish I knew the coefficient of performance of the heat pump.

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That'd be really cool to know, but I just wanted to say the cabin heat

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was pretty much irrelevant to this drive

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because, you know, the two hours

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between charging stops for kilowatt

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hours was used for heating the cabin.

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That is not even like that's

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basically what I said for the battery heater running for an hour.

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So 14% max of each charge

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was being used to heat the battery and to heat the cabin.

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The rest of it was just to push the car

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through the very cold, very dense air,

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and I had wind in both directions.

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I just, I genuinely I have the worst luck with that with my car.

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I'm often taking trips west on I-80,

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and somehow it's like, I'll head out west and I'm driving into the wind,

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and then I head back east when I shouldn't be driving into the wind.

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And all of a sudden I'm driving into the wind again.

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It's I don't know why, but the wind really doesn't like me.

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But anyway, I'm going to close this video out

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because, like I said, the trip back is the exact same thing.

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It's just the stakes were higher because it was getting colder.

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But what I'm doing is no different.

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I'm just seeing how much energy is the car using to go

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this speed and,

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is it getting worse than it thinks

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it will be, or is it getting better?

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And it's not really that difficult.

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It's just

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it's just something to get used to because

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it's significant that my car goes from an easy 230 miles on the highway

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in the summer, down to, as we saw from Lafayette, 145.

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150 can be a stretch when it's cold and windy, but

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just because the range dropped that far

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doesn't necessarily mean it's such a huge deal.

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So long as there are charging stations available

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where you need them to be, and

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more and more are showing up literally every day,

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I'm going to plug a channel that you might want to check out.

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If you want to see the progress of new DC

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fast charging installations in the US.

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Really good.

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The network architect channel.

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Sorry.

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The network architect channel.

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Walter is his name.

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I was blanking on the name of the channel for a second there.

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He does weekly reports on new DC fast

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charging installations that are really great to keep track of.

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They are literally coming in every day.

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I know it doesn't seem like we are supporting electric cars

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because, you know,
we have a lot of people in positions of power right now

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who are very skeptical of them, perhaps

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because they can't make as much money

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in a world where people can charge their cars at home

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and they drive cars which need very little maintenance,

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something to consider.

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But despite the fact that we seem

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to be very anti EV right now as a culture,

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and we removed a whole lot of the government incentives

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to build out infrastructure, or at least made the very difficult.

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It is still being built out very, very quickly.

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The on a network, as a matter of fact,
hasn't taken any government money

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and it's one of my favorite charging networks

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because they are rolling out really fast,

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they're really reliable and they're pretty cheap. So

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there's lots of good news in this space.

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It's only going to get easier.

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And at this point, with just a tiny little bit of thought,

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I can take my car anywhere.

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And I don't really even need to plan.

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I just need to look at the plug share app,

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monitor the conditions as I'm driving,

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and pick chargers as I go.

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So thanks for watching.

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I hope this video was helpful.

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And if you're considering an electric car,

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this is the sort of thing

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you're going to have to do on road trips only.

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And keep that in mind.

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If you can set up charging at home,

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or if you have access to a charger at work,

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you're never going to use these things

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unless you need to drive far, which is exactly the case for me.

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The closest chargers to my home

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that I actually use regularly are in Wisconsin and Indiana,

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because when you can charge at home

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or at work, it doesn't have to be at home.

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But if you can charge some where your car is parked

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and you have regular access to that,

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you're not going to use these DC fast chargers.

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You only need them when you exceed your car's range.

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And now that modern EVs have minimum ranges of 200 miles

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road trips, that's pretty much the only circumstance

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unless you drive professionally.

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And if that is your case,

00:43:41.200 --> 00:43:43.733
an EV is probably not right for you quite yet.

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But we'll probably get there because, you know, we're moving
pretty quick.

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Anyway, thanks for watching.

